tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5656744070641517986.post8448597953067724793..comments2020-07-08T16:48:36.806-07:00Comments on The anti-LaRouchian sourceblog: USA, 2007: Ex. LYM Akka and jmp87 about LYM.Europeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10535845531791561014noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5656744070641517986.post-84961370001433013292009-06-16T21:33:07.349-07:002009-06-16T21:33:07.349-07:00I'm basically talking about long posts on fact...I'm basically talking about long posts on factnet. <br /><br />Regardless - who the posts are for - xmems, mems - but I think we especially need to think of family and friends - who are trying to find info about the cult to help save the ones they know who are getting snared by LaR. Shorter - more concise posts - are much more useful - and more likely to be read.<br /> <br />There are always exceptions to the rule - HH's<br />account of the Australian member's experience certainly qualifies as a post - that you wouldn't want to shorten or break into parts -<br />and I hope to see it reprinted in LaRsources<br /> soon.<br /><br />The subject of Apologies came up. I, fortunately, was not an "abuser" (although we all were in some ways) while in the cult. I was mostly abused. I know , if I would had stayed in - I probably would had become just as abusive as those who abused me. From factnet - I've learned there are still people inside the cult I knew back in the 70's. They were also mostly abused back then - and probably still are to this day. I doubt if LaR and some of his close associates - will ever say they are sorry - for the harm they have caused to so many. But I'd sure like to hear it from the people who recruited and abused me - who are now hopefully out. And I have no problems in saying sorry to the people - I dis-respected or just generally treated negatively - while I was inside the cult. I still to this day, have no idea what has happend to some of the people, which I thought very highly of, and were recruited around the same time as me. B4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5656744070641517986.post-67432006249503658352009-06-16T03:55:54.555-07:002009-06-16T03:55:54.555-07:00I will write a thing about this when I have the ti...I will write a thing about this when I have the time. There is much to comment on this and I agree with much. There is often much bitterness among ex. members. Sometimes I have to make sure that I do not fall into this trap myself...<br /><br />The long posts are read by many curretn and ex. members. The factnet is in a sense mainly a forum for them.<br /><br />I would have strctured my blog(s) otherwise if it was possible. Some blogs allow you to post a short summary, and the first paragraphs first, then the rest. Blogger does not function like that. That is why almost all the things I write here long!Europeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10535845531791561014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5656744070641517986.post-78077713262128799132009-06-14T19:55:38.516-07:002009-06-14T19:55:38.516-07:00My response for "Xer" to his/her most re...My response for "Xer" to his/her most recent post.<br /><br />I understand where you are coming from and I appreciate all the info you've posted - (but I do believe shorter more concise posts are more useful - you might try breaking long posts into several shorter ones.)<br /><br />LaR is being consistent in his views. His Obama with a Hitler mustache is no different than claiming Carter was planning to ship welfare recipients into box cars. So it's not any crazier - it's always been crazy.<br /><br />What seems to me - more crazier - and more dangerous - is the pressure being put on new recruits, and people still inside the cult.<br />As the recent Holocaust museum shooting shows, LaR at 87 - has a greater chance - of actually ordering his followers to do something violent - and those that remain - actually might be crazy enough to obey.<br /><br />Remember, it's the group pressure, deception, and making the person feel he's got that "special stuff" to help save the world that makes someone drop out of college and join the group. No one would ever joined the group on their own - by just reading the material on their own. Though recruitment may, in fact, be decreasing - it really only takes someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time - to get recruited. <br /><br />I don't have any "death-wish" for LaR like you. When-ever that happens - it happens - and it isn't necessarily going to make the cult - "go away". <br /><br />I think the best we can do, is educate people as to how it is a cult and have empathy for people who are still in - and be able to provide some help to their relatives and friends - who have seen the person they use to know - been turned into a slave for LaR.<br />B4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5656744070641517986.post-41444845557518152962009-06-12T21:14:23.173-07:002009-06-12T21:14:23.173-07:00I definitely agree with getting the facts out.
Fo...I definitely agree with getting the facts out.<br /><br />Fortunately, the sexual references have stopped on factnet. That gives me less stomach problems.<br /><br />I think your suggestion on factnet about how to refer to former members and current members is a very good one.<br /><br />I'd like to see more people on factnet - and I do think that the display of "LaRouchian behavior" by former members sort of turns off other people who would otherwise participate.<br /><br />What is this "LaRouchian" behavior?:<br />1. Really long posts. For crying out loud - some of these posts outdo LaRouche in his "scientific breakthroughs which will of course help in our supposed development". Some factnet members - however - I must commend their efforts for keeping their posts - a paragraph or two - usually plenty of material for thought in a few sentences.<br />2. In depth analysis of certain people -<br />this is really a carry over of being in the LaRouche cult - as we would always read an in-depth analysis of the political figure of the day - whether it be Aristotle or Obama.<br />I have to admit - I find myself getting caught up reading this stuff - but one really has to ask themselves - why am I so interested in this - are other people? (no)<br />3. Mocking - it's interesting that some people on fact-net refer to long-time members as "dead-enders" (you might want to practice more empathy here - a trait which the LaRouche cult wipes out in new recruits and apparently is long lasting in some cases) and that the LaR cult themselves also refer to baby boomer members as "dead-enders".<br />There are other LaR behaviors - but I'd be violating the first behavior I mentioned if I write much more.<br /><br />I promise you - I have been guilty myself - of all I've mentioned - and I'm writing this in hopes of basically helping others.<br /><br />I realize - I'll probably get some criticism - and I can't claim all I write is very scintific - or accurate - it comes mostly from my gut. <br /><br />You may post this on fact-net - it might generate some good discussion - hopefully.<br />B4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5656744070641517986.post-44596519506875514222009-06-04T11:13:45.378-07:002009-06-04T11:13:45.378-07:00True in many ways. But they are talking about the ...True in many ways. But they are talking about the cult at Factnet! There is a need to get the facts out!Europeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10535845531791561014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5656744070641517986.post-48466701464852274752009-05-31T17:43:15.050-07:002009-05-31T17:43:15.050-07:00Euro,
This particular post demonstrates just how ...Euro,<br /><br />This particular post demonstrates just how "messed-up" one's mind can become after being in the LaRouche cult.<br /><br />Reading Fact-net also demonstrates this. There are now just a handful of participants in Fact-net - and their recent fixation on sex is just as disgusting if not worse - than those in the LaR cult.<br /><br />If they were to read this comment - they would say - you just don't get our humour - and this is for people who really understand what it's like being within the cult.<br /><br />Yup, they are acting just like LaRouchies - only now LaR is the Evil or Crazy one -<br />for their focus of LaRouchie behavior.<br /><br />The only advice I would give to such people at this point is - please try and recognize when your behavior is the same as it was when you were in the LaR cult - only now you are focusing such behavior on LaR and some of his long-time followers. It's the first step - in breaking out of such behavior. If you don't think you need to break out of such behavior - then I know mentioning the second step will be useless. B4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com