USA: A comment by a mother and a brother of a LYM-member!

From the Factnet 2004. A brother and a mother of a LYM member in sialogue with "Scott".

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Anonymous

Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 2:13 am:        

Larouche is a funny guy. His pamphlets are so incoherent, that 99% of americans would immediately toss it in the garbage and say, "who the hell is that psycho?" Now, granted there are plenty of ignorant americans out there, but getting through to them is the only way to be elected into public office and help change stupid, bad laws. Larouche is not getting through to me, or to anyone I know, except my brother who has completely abandoned all of his friends, family and ambitions. So, I ask you, WTF?

 

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Scott

Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 8:24 am:        

So Anonymous back there, you say your brother has joined the L team, and left everything behind? Can you talk about it some more, and see if we can figure out a way to help? Has he moved in with them yet? Does he organize full-time?

 

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Strider

Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 10:45 am:        

"Pay No Attention to that Man Behind the Curtain." 

Anonymous's brother, my son, has been working for the L group for just two years. Scott, if you have any suggestions, we are "all ears." Perhaps it would be helpful for him to be communicating on this board; perhaps not. I would not want to endanger the life of Factnet by opening this up to him, or is this site safeharbor? 

When he first moved in with Pat in Seattle, I spent three weeks out there trying to open his mind and on one visit home I hired a talking head to spend some time with him, but the group prevailed with their scare tactics. Chaim tried to help by phone, but my son wouldn't listen. His life is that of a slave, the life you once knew. He does come home for a few days, half-way across our country for a visit every 6-12 months. He loves music and is helping teach the group in L.A. right now, and he is on the ground floor with the new recruiting. 

His brother, anonymous above asks, "WTF?" 

I ask, what can we do? 

Strider

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Scott

Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 4:30 pm:        

Back to Anonymous (the "WTF" guy) the real scare in Larouche is separating the crap from the truth. You may know that we live in a world where bad people do bad things, and sometimes they are kept secret. What the L team will do is foind out things--intelligence horrible acts governments commit (genocide etc.), and scare the crap out of young people that this is happening all around them, and, most importantly, that because the L team may be the only people talking about the problem, that the only way to not be complicit with the problem is to join "the fight" and work for them. 

Of course "the fight" consists of collecting money, and finding more people to collect money, and while all this is going on a psychological profile is being created on the person--each person in the group who spends a day with him reports back anything personal they've learned, and he's watched very closely in general, and finally, after a few weeks or so, he has some questions. He's not sure what's going on in the "movement". He's tired, he's hungry, he's been bombarded with information that is very specific, connecto-s of weird plots that have happened in history. He's sent into to the leader's office to have his questions taken care of, and it begins. 

The real mental workover, the yelling, the pschological profile is put to work, the personal information comes out--anything he might have been embarassed or ashamed of his hammered on until he admits he's wrong. In his weakened state he's told to buck up, there's a chance to redeem yourself and save the world tomorrow...you may go now. And he begins to work at it, frightened of haing his mental buttons pushed again, which they surely will be, he does the best he can--in a few months--everything they say is pure truth. 

The Battle for the Mind, William Sargant. Read it start there, you can help him, but you have to understand what happened to him, and whats still happening. 

And yeah Tom is losing his edge, because he's starting to see the patterns, I've told him what's happening and its getting a bit clearer.