USA: "Scott" tells his story (part 3).

"So the mama's boy who's never done anything in his life is going to come here and say 'Alex made some homosexual kid cry and I want my mommy'...are you homosexual, Frank? Is that it? Is that why you haven't been able to raise any money out there?"

By "Scott"

(Posted on Factnet, May 07, 2004 - 10:59 am)

Someone asked me a question in a letter, I thought people might like to hear my response:

Do not focus on the "politics" of his [LaRouche's] organization. For all intents and purposes the political side of the organization is just a sham--it really is more of a religion than a political movement anyway--the mantra really is give me your life and I'll give you salvation.

Your students will be having the same methods of coercion used on them at the table on your campus at their lunch breaks, that is used on members in closed rooms. LaRouchies will be out there preaching: "The end is near, join the Leader and be like him, and that will save the world." And they will tell them to drop out of college to join, they will literally be brought into group meetings where every person in the room is pressuring them to drop out. You know when they have classes? Usually what happens is maybe one or two people will be from a local campus, usually someone they met that day. That person will walk into a room of twenty or so people, not really knowing that almost everyone there is already a member. As soon as someone comes to more than one or two meetings, they are psychologically profiled by the Regional leader...and then the leader will talk to everyone about that person.

Example: "Frank has mommy issues, everybody needs to tell him he needs to stop sucking off his mother's milk." So then as Frank hangs around more and he is brought in for conferences and meetings, everyone is nice to him, but they in their own way will make comments about Frank being a mama's boy. This may be true, or it may be that Frank just has a very close relationship with his mom, he's 18, and still just a kid. So this campaign makes Frank begin to question himself, it undermines his confidence in his beliefs and values, while all around him there are people constantly restating the normal line of LaRouche politics: nothing is what it seems, the world is ending, join me...yada yada. And there may be ten of these directives given by the Regional leader. All designed to make the person, basically, have a nervous breakdown in a controlled environment. They will attack his hobbies, his friends, his values, his family and his personality traits in these secret "campaigns," and Fred will think that people he has hardly talked to think he's a mama's boy (or whatever they're attacking that week)--his insecurity will soar.

Then what happens, if that person decides to drop out [of school] and join full-time, is that the real work on their mind begins. The same type of thing goes on, but then added in is a host of other tactics--the working for 12-14 hours a day will soften him up quite a bit, and the leader will keep a very close eye on him in the very early stages. After a few days of work the leader might lean in and say, "Hey you guys should all do something tonight, take Frank over to so-and-so's house and read poetry. Frank will be up until 3 am, get up a few hours later and go back to arguing at a card table shrine for LaRouche with everyone who walks by, all this time reinforcing what he has "learned" by taking the position for 12 hours a day. Frank will be plied with LaRouche books to read from every side. Then something will come up that Frank has a problem with. He's organizing at a table one day and his partner, someone who's been around for years, breaks someone down in the street who begins crying. Fred thinks it was cruel, so he goes to talk to the leader. Now, all this time the leader has played "good cop."

"Umm, Steve?" says Frank [to the Regional leader], "I saw Alex make someone cry at the college today, he was yelling at this kid about how he can't understand LaRouche because he's a homosexual, and when the kid said no, Alex just kept poking him with it until the kid broke down and started crying."

From out of nowhere the bad cop shows up.

"So do you need to go suck off your mother's tit some more? Is that what this is about, Frank? Alex has been off his momma's tit for ten years now and he's mastered Riemann's geometry, have you?"

"Uhhh...no."

"So the mama's boy who's never done anything in his life is going to come here and say 'Alex made some homosexual kid cry and I want my mommy'...are you homosexual, Frank? Is that it? Is that why you haven't been able to raise any money out there? You're too busy thinking about Mommy's tits and Daddy's dick to be a potent organizer?"

And this may go on for half an hour. Mind you that Frank has just moved into an apartment with four other LaRouchies, he has just dropped out of school, and probably alienated most of his friends, and his parents, who all argued against him joining the LaRouche Youth Cult. The leader will use every bit of personal information he has gathered about Frank in order for him to have a real breakdown. Frank, who now has nowhere to go, but has made a few "friends" in the LYC, finally gives in. He sees that Alex was right for breaking down that kid, because that kid is evil, and Frank realizes that he is too. Frank realizes that he hasn't worked hard enough for humanity to criticize Alex, and so he confesses to Steve.

"I'm sorry, Steve. You're right, I've been dependent on my mom forever, and she was turning me into some crazy brainwashed consumer. I mean geez, she was sending me to college to learn about computers, and like LaRouche says, that's not even real. I guess she's just like every other boomer."

After he does so he feels a little better and stops crying, and his pulse slows down.

Steve says, "Well good. What I think you need to do is read Lyn's book The Reason Why Everyone in the World Is Insane but Me, and you should get Alex to help you on some geometry. Are you still into painting?"

"Yes, Sir, I like to paint at night sometimes still, it eases my mind."

"You should focus on something else...try reading Lyn's book They're All Out to Get Me, I Swear. Okay, well, good talking to you."

And Frank walks out feeling a little closer to Steve, and Steve has shown Frank that he is able to instill terror in him at any moment. This makes Frank unconsciously more pliant; he won't raise another question like that for a month. But he will raise a question. And now Frank hasn't had a good night's sleep in five weeks, and he is becoming slightly malnourished as his pay has dropped from $300 a week to $100 a week because of a "mass leaflet mobilization" (and Lyn is going to travel to Europe for a while, and he needs the nice table at the restaurant). The pay will continue to decrease.

Frank tells Steve he has to ask him about something again. Steve tells him to come to his office at 5. At 5, Frank walks in, and a Security Squad member is in the office also, the SS member stands in front of the door, and this time the yelling is more severe, and the psychological profile, having been honed, allows the leader to play Frank like a piano. Frank is a blubbering mess in twenty minutes. Frank's brain which has initiated fight or flight, tells him to get up and walk out. He tries to do so, and the SS member begins working on him (verbally) while blocking the door. The two of them work on him until he sits back down and takes his medicine.

This pattern will continue, in perpetuity, until someone helps Frank out.

We need to go help Frank out.

USA: "Charltonroom", "Jimmyo" and others writes about youthorganizing and LYM.

POST FROM THE FACTNET! Jimmyo Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 3:33 am:

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Heya All. 

Newbie here. Ex-member of the LYM, and having had read a whole bunch of the LaRouche threads here, decided to sign up and participate. 

When I joined, it was because of what the LYM purported to be about. A bunch of things, a bunch of ideas that were (and are) neat. And while I left a fair while ago, no ill feelings (either way, believe it or not,) and only started to reconsider a bunch of things after coming across you guys, I'll share some of my relevant experiences. 

It took a while for me to be convinced of LHLs 'genius'. In anything I read (the Children of Satan pamphlets were coming out at the time I joined) he would obviously ramble. Waffle, that's the word. The punctuation I didn't mind, but I'm pretty bad myself. Eventually I must have become convinced. Speeches, I never was. Other LYMers would rave about how LHL was the worlds greatest speakers. Um, huh? I'm sure as hell not the only one to fall asleep during a 'historic' webcast. And it was great having the work with Beltran, too. His workshops would include plenty of really basic stuff, about inflections and the like. The same people would eargly listen to Beltran, and fail to notice that none of these basics of orating were followed by the 'great speaker' Lyn. 

The group readings were fun. 15-25 people (the number as dictated by LHL himself) sitting around the room read Lyns latest (or Plato, Schiller, or others sometimes, but Lyn primarily) out loud. Remember that most (all?) or the LYM are high-school or uni drop outs. Plenty of people among whom literacy not a strong point. I used to think that the reason so few people could read LHL out so it'd make sense was because few could understand the idea-content. A years break it took me, to realise that it didn't make sense because it couldn't. 

Another thing I remember is how much better an article written by someone other than a LaRouche was. I always found the other 21st Century, or Fidelio articles much more useful. You could read them and come away with a bit of understanding on something, whoever small. But reading Lyn, it'd be coming away with confusion, and then after long enough coming away with confusion, and thinking that it was knowledge.

charltonroom

Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 1:46 am:

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'07 is the new target year for the Big One: the financial apocalypse and systemic breakdown that will lead to the genocidal outcome so avidly desired by the planet oligarchic class. 

Having the yutes surely validates Lyn's megalomania too. He's ensnared a brood of yutes, of varying background. Defining the features of this particular cultic apparatus, is my agenda.

Eaglebeak

Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 11:25 am:

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My particular agenda is to get the Ken Kronberg story out; I think this will lead to exposure that could be a huge problem for LaRouche. 

On the youth, there are a couple of considerations that indicate how LaRouche has perfected his technique. 

When I and my age cohort joined, we were either college grads or in college or perhaps in grad school. We held jobs. In other words, we were independent, or could form an independent thought, and had to test those thoughts and our performance at work and/or in school. 

We supported ourselves. We were able to buy clothes and food and books, and pay rent. 

We were THE SAME AGE then, when we were doing all these "grown-up" things, that the yutes are today. 

Now, this eroded over time, particularly in regions, where people's rent and medical bills, etc., began to be paid for them, so that they were infantilized and rendered dependent. When I was a member, however, we called this becoming lumpenized--that is, some part of us still recognized that it was a Bad Thing to live 6 to an apartment, eat all our meals together, live off what we made at field deployments, etc., share our cars (and have them destroyed in the field). 

Today, what we used to criticize as lumpenization is held up as the ultimate politico-monastic existence. 

That is the crux of the operation: Keeping the LYMers in communalist dorms, feeding them from communalist pots, paying all their bills for them, imprisons them psychologically and financially. They are absorbed into The Family. 

The vestiges of independence that we older people retained is one reason LaRouche hates the Baby Boomers and their immediate successors so much. For those older members, no matter what LaRouche does, he can't impress them the way he can impress the LYM. 

Also note that a couple of years LaRouche stopped the process of National Conferences in the U.S.--conferences attended by the old members as well as the young. Now in their place they hold LYM retreats, off in the mountains someplace in isolation. 

There are NO conferences for older members--where someone might get up and say what he or she thought. And now the old members are taught by the LYM--very rarely is the LYM taught by old members. There are just a handful of old members "cleared" to teach--Jeff Steinberg, Harley Schlanger, Phil Rubenstein, Bruce Director, Michelle Steinberg, come to mind.

Charltonroom

Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 2:21 pm:

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Yes, the boomers in the organization are now in effect part of the Enemy class. There are 3 generational classes in Lyn's system, namely the "youth", including up to around age 30; the Tweeners, of dubious virtue; and the dreaded Boomers, who exemplify the most vile character features of any human grouping ever. It got to the point where exposure between the 3 classes was moving in the direction of being rationed. Never mind that the youth stipends such as they are, are paid by phone-team tortured slogging. Lyn alternates his description of boomers, from pitiable wretches to be saved, to fully wretched cowards and vile Agents even; older members who've dedicated their lives to Lyn, are said to be laboring to undermine him. "You are all treating Lyn like ••••!" I remember being told, as we worked and reworked the spreadsheets and card boxes.

Charltonroom

Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 3:09 pm:

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I don't think it's a "mindset". It's basically a CULT. Maybe one with theoretical elements that are more dense than normal cults: we DID read Plato's dialogues in group sessions; we DID work through various math/geometry pedagogicals; there WAS a sort of high tech-futurism aspect to the organization; and so forth. Lyn's texts and writings had a certain sort of rhetorical density which can be captivating to the philosophically/psychologically innocent. But it's cult-ic at the very least, because it centers on a charismatic leader who engages in unscrupulous political and financial practices. 

Cults have certain constant structural features, such as: 

1. Initiates/devotees, drawn from the sector of the population that comprises those in transitional states; those with insecure sexual identities; those in conditions of "anomie" or philosophical/existential uncertainty. Without initiates/devotees, there is no "organization" 
2. An ideology that sustains the group, justifies its existence, rationalizes its activities. Typical are millenarian/revolutionary or end-of-the-world doctrines. Messianic delusions and exclusivity ("We are the worlod's leadership force" I used to say), as well as demonizing/dehumanizing opponents, or proffering up certain classes or types as the Enemy, are also typical. 
3. Finally, a central, charismatic figure, often of messianic character or pretensions. 

Sound familiar?

Charltonroom

Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 7:13 pm:

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My opinion is that the content in Lyn's cultic apparatus is both different and important. I don't think the Moonies or Krsna's try to gain pull in the Democratic Party. The veneer of science and philosophy, of futuristic economics, of a new monetary system to empower a world of sovereign nation-states; the lure of being World Historical: all these things lend a certain contemporary revolutionary panache to the organization. Young people join up to fight for the future; not knowing Lyn's true wild, spotty history, they see him as a plausible leader in that. Who else is proposing a new monetary system and any sort of programmatic approach? I will admit that for quite a long time, Lyn was for me "the central figure in contemporary history," as I used to put it. It all came together; I felt sure Lyn was the great humanist of the age, matured over time certainly, but persecuted by the regnant oligarchy for his revolutionary views and actions, such as his counseling Lopez Portillo to repudiate Mexico's debt. (The story I was told on this by the way was that this nearly succeeded, but for the caving of Argentina's president from the repudiation-bloc.) 

There are some common features with other cults, namely the preying on sexual insecurities ("You're psychosexually impotent!"), the demonizations, the groupthink. What sets Lyn apart for me is the Brobdingnagian, titanically vast bloating of his ego and his fascinating chameleonic quality over the decades, plus, again, this frisson of philosophy, science, and economics. That you won't find amongst the Krsna's or Moonies. 

The key is not scattershot, piecemeal potshots and remembrances, though these are essential and instructive. The key is comprehending how LYN'S cult works/has worked; what is ITS method (basically the LaRouche/Schacht Method, see below). 

Basically we hope some of this dialogue may get perceived by some thinking of joining or some thinking of getting out, that it may give them some perspective to resist the peer pressure and fearmongered intimidation. Next: the Lure of the Cult.

XLCR4LIFE

Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 7:17 pm:

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I have here a quote from LHL given in an address in the barn at Ibykus farm on Monday Dec 21, 1987 before everyone in Leesburg. Read this a few times and you will see that he combines so much of his delusions with a future plan for the cult. 

LAROUCHE Dec. 20, 1987: "Creativity is one of my obsessions. If you don't have creative insight, you can't see how we can win; if you can see how we can win, then we will win. 

Only we can save the world; only we can do the job, because nobody else even knows what the job is. Would you like to be the savior of humanity? ... Yes, I was chosen. You were chosen. Not with fanfare, not with the blaring trumpets of archangel Gabriel. It doesn't happen that way. It happens as you walk down the street thinking about the problems of the world and realize only you can do the job ... You are chosen. Like John Scialdone's lawyer said to the jury: 'You poor schmucks'! 


... Look around you. Who will support us? Who will rally to us? The ones who will rally to us are the emotionally crippled, the grey-faced, the neurologically impaired who, in rallying to us will do the only worthy thing to give meaning to their lives. Thus they will be able to say, 'I wasn't important but I contributed to victory 

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What happens in the LC/LYM is that by keeping your life filled with anxiety and fear around the clock, you never really read what you are selling or hear what you are hearing. To this day I can reread some of the lunacy we published about Jews and kick myself for suppressing that FIRST gut feeling that something was not right. 

We are going to be coming up to the 20th anniversary of that speech Lyn gave where he tells you what the plan is. For the past two years the LC Boomers and I have been reading the exact same briefings where Lyn outlines how he will get rid of the old and expensive and replace it with younger and cheaper yutes. 

Lyn uses the word "Win" in a context where only he will define it instead of any real paramters of success can be measured. 

What I start to think of is how the LC and Lyn spent so much time portraying the difference between Plato and Aristotle as a simple parlor trick he does by saying that the Aristotelian wants to see a chair while the Platonist is superior because he used causation to imagine the chair before it existed. I swear we had endless classs about this which because of portraying Aristotle as evil and Plato as good, it established the next level of where empirical knowledge is bad. This LC education has only one outcome which is to make you no longer ask for physical proof of something but by merely imagining it you can define it's existance in any way you wish. 

This allows Lyn to tell naive yutes that the USA has been in an economic collapse for 40 years while ignoring the simple empirical fact that the total USA population has 100 million more people since he first started yapping about this. 

Lyn can repeat an endless cacophony of real estate collapse when the only people who lost money in Northen Virgina real estate from 1980 to 2000 was Lyn himself! 

Another parlor trick Lyn and the cult uses is the word "Phase shift". You read the briefings and you find that used a lot to convince you that working around the clock for Lyn and giving all of your money has caused something to happen which you directly caused. The mumbo jumbo you will get is that this person "echoed" Larouche and a "Phase shift" has occured which has changed "The Dynamic" of the "political situation".

XLCR4LIFE

Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 7:44 pm:

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Two years ago when some Lym yutes were sending me briefign exerpts they asked about why the big deal in denouncing LC boomers. I would get emails where I thought it was being punked by yutes. From several sources I was told that older Boomer LCers were involved in cooking group meals for LYM and in a few instances were breaking down in the office and sobbing "Why am I here. What has happened to my life?". This made sense since so many LYM who left have siad that part of the daily routine is to see and hear the local NC berate the older members at every opportunity. 

Now in the briefings you can't help but notice how the quoats for locals are still in effect and wonder how much can the LYM be sent to sing on street corners before they have to pull in some bucks. I guessed that it would be a gradual turn of events with phone work for LPAC being done with LC boomers showing how it is done. 

In the early 1970s when Lyn revved up the LC with Mop Op and the Chris White scam and assasination attempt fantasies, he said the LC, "This aint no debating society anymore". S the bills pile up you wonder how long can you afford to send card table shrines to college campuses intead of actual deployments for money. 

The asnwer is when you have enough people to replace the boomers and need to start bringing in the cash. This was somehwat complicated by the fact that there was no lit to sell or subs to sell as most of the work was just giving it away. Howver, for the past few months I have noticed that the income of squads has been reported while the college deployments have been downplayed. The writers of the briefings have even written things like "Deploying is fun" and "we took over the town by raising 90 bucks and getting 20 contacts" 

You might as well put up a sign at the LYM clubhouse saying "Work will make you free" as the latest escalation in the cult is called a "reading day". In one funny email I was sent a LYM member wondered how after busting your butt 6 days a week for 18 hours the briefing would quote some LYM member in esctasy over getting up at 6 AM for an authorised reading day to have even your free time controlled by the cult. 

The card table shrine is Lyn's future for you guys and girls. Only a select amount of people will get the coveted "War Room" desk jockey jobs while the rest of you will be slowly put out to the streets to raise money. There will be some time for singing anf theatrics, but saving humanity comes with a price tag. 

Here we have a blog about a return to intersection deployments. When you yutes start to wear signs and approach cars keep in mind that we did this a lot in the past. ALso keep in mind that you will probably not be in the LYM when the first cases of skin cancer from the sun and cancer from the exhaust fumes deposits carcinogens into your young, fresh, supple bodies. 

Up next, the intersection squads come back.

(...) [Blog entries about LaRouches intersection squads!]

Charltonroom

Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 7:56 pm:

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The LaRouche/Schacht Method and the Lure of the Cult 

xlcr4life has well-opined the basic Method. Lyn's true mission is not the furtherance of the work of Jesus Christ ("Jesus Christ & Civilization, 2000) or the attainment of a new monetary system, or a global maglev network. If examined honestly as a historical phenomenon in must be concluded that his goal is, in essence, self-aggrandizement. 

He exudes a sort of philosophic halo or creedal penumbra, comprised of the doctrinal content enunciated this season. I.e., the political positionings are legion. Virtually every day, something new, some new end-of-the-system imminent crisis, some new Demon. The content of the noetic halo has radically shifted over time. Some of his proposals and notions are definitely not vacuous nor devoid of content; they are intriguing. The problem is that when one looks at his history you find radical transformation of commitment, such that you have to realize he's untrustworthy, especially when you factor in the scammings,the horrid treatment of his associates, the anti-Israelism. 

Those Lyn draws in may be quite bright by some measures. There are some true revolutionary zealots, but mostly they are weak-willed devotees, of insecure identity, who I would guess believe like I did that they have found, in effect, the Messiah. 

It's generally a big decision to join. Once In, the inertia of belonging is strong. The group imposes forms of behavior and thought control, such as seeking to limit family encounters; implying that failure to recruit or raise funds is equivalent to sexual impotence; plus spinning world events around the words and deeds of the Messiah. The net effect is rather powerful emotional enforcement in the Creed. I had conflicts about leaving. I had put in years of my life, after all. 

Lyn will blow up your sense of importance for a while but the key is getting those funds in so he and the NC's can travel first class and the voice and drama lessons of the LYM can be supported. Therefore the Boomers and Tweeners in the org, those over the acceptable-age threshold, must be whipped continuously to produce the income needed to ensure proper functioning. The Boomers despite their exhaustion have really not much other place to go and so they continue to eat the ever-thinning gruel that Lyn and the organization are on the edge of a breakout. 

This is the basic structure and method. As the older members are cast off and the LYM move into prominence, they will be forced to try and come up with fundraising schemes. Hopefully they will be legal, 'though I know that several of the LYM are not above scamming; there are a number who have reneged on student loan obligations. 

I don't think the model is viable for much longer.

XLCR4LIFE

Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 10:23 pm:    "there are a number who have reneged on student loan obligations"  This is something which I have been hearing bits and pieces of for years. When I was in we had people who were pretty proud of having skipped out on their loans. Who needed to worry about Loan repays if the whle world economy was going to collapse and the dollar was worthless?  I can see an NC taking some yute into a room and asking if they can borrow some money on student loans to fund some "project" with a promise of paying it back. Once the check is signed over the friendly face changes and you will then be whisked into a room where someone like a Leni will look at you like you are crazy for asking for money to make this month's payment.  "Don't you know that a nuclear bomb can drop on us at any moment?"  What also happens is that you are trapped now as you are now in debt to the cult who have more reasons not to repay you then you have reasons to pay the note.  "What? You are worried about your credit report? There will be no credit when the crash hits"  "The political situation demands that all money be deployed to print the latest world historical brief by Lyn so cause a phase shift in the Democratic Party"  (No wonder Lyn writes a new brief at the beginning and the middle of the month when most payments are due)  The cult has another trick which is to make the yute's parents support Lyn. Here is how it works. You can promise a yute anything cause they really have no idea what it costs to live as this is the first time they are on their own. Lyn also has spent quite a few memos on why money is not worth anything and you need to be concerned about the physical economy. Well, everyone else's except yours. Next, once you need something like a coat or cell phone you are encouraged to contact your parents to get some money. Your parents figure that if they give you cash it will go to Lyn, instead pay your car insurance or phone bill. These are pretty cold blooded NCs you are dealing with. They had people evicted for not paying rent to send Lyn money and had members call up their parents to get cash for non existant medical bills. We usually got sick around the time the first presidential committee was set up and needed matching fund money.  No matter what the story, you are at the mercy of the cult for your news, reading material, media material, food, clothes, what time to get up, what time to go to sleep, who you will live with and when your day off will be and what you will do that day. You also can be sent to another region and can also expect some slimy old man to question your sexual secrets and life in a late night Beyond Psyche session. If you do not hit quota expect the world to end and then return to the office to see someone who is 30 years older than you but looks 50 years older be yelled at daily by the NC.  This has been a 35 year or so farce yutes. Are your qualifications to be with Lyn based on his 1987 WANT AD for today?  "Look around you. Who will support us? Who will rally to us? The ones who will rally to us are the emotionally crippled, the grey-faced, the neurologically impaired who, in rallying to us will do the only worthy thing to give meaning to their lives. Thus they will be able to say, 'I wasn't important but I contributed to victory "

How LYM and LYMettes will be screwed by the cult

#855       06-26-2008, 08:42 AM

xlcr4life  Paid Member   Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 353

How LYM and LYMettes will be screwed by the cult Quote: Originally Posted by eaglebeak  Meanwhile, let me share with you something absolutely atrocious that appeared in last Sunday's briefing--six days after Gary and John died on the highway:  From the Morning Briefing, Sunday, June 22, 2008 Under the lead "Windy Hill Dialogues Saturday, June 21, 2008" In the sixth paragraph, toward the end, Lyn says that without XYZ, "Civilization can not be saved. I admit, it's in tattered condition, but we still want to say that. It's like an old car, it's the only one you got; you got to repair it [laughter]. You guys know that! Sometimes you drive a car that already died! [laughter]" Got it? Six days after two longtime members are killed because their car died? "You guys know that!" Laughter!  There is no stone of depravity that Lyn has not turned; there is no perversion, no evil, in which he does not, vicariously at least, participate. A long time ago, during the financial raping of our supporters and abuses done against our members, I saw the depravity first hand and had to leave. For non members who do not have first hand experience in a cult, it is among the most sinister things one can experience where all of the real world laws, customs, norms and morality are stripped away from the cult members. The completely insane views are now a reality which dictates how you conduct your affairs and business along with personal relations. Everything which happens in the tightly controlled Bizarro world of the cult is designed to ensure that members do not have any values or personal conditions of their life which is worth a dime while Lyn and the supposed aims of the cult are the priority. This means that you need to accept driving and being a passenger in a LaroucheMobile risking your life so that the money saved can pay for the armored Mercedes Benz in Europe for Lyn and Helga. The quote by Lyn which Eaglebeak has supplied is not new. There are a few meetings where Lyn has said the the same thing to the LYM and LYMettes with the same laughter. Over the course of being in the cult, what you are willing to take in a lowering of YOUR life will be measured against the end of the world nightly briefings you will be receiving. This has always been the case and you are supposed to feel guilty if you require somethng like dental care or like to drive with a tank of gas and a registered vehicle.  No matter what the cult grosses each week, it will never be enough. There are more tricks in Lyn's head and his underlings than arguments which can be made by a member. I once received an email from a LA member who made the mistake of asking Leni R about being owed something and the response was that a Nuclear Bomb could be dropped out on us at any minute, how could you ask for this now? Female LYM members had to beg for a few bucks to purchase personal toiletries according to one exLym's email. Gary Genazzio and John Morris never had a chance. Genazzio was 66 years old and in this crazy environment most of his life. People like Genazzio and Morris who stuck around for decades and decades just go with whatever happens.  Who knows if they started off in Chicago? Let us take a look at some mapping and see for ourselves. Let us assume that Gary Genazzio and John Morris started off from this address. Midwest Circulation Corporation 4343 N Clarendon Ave Chicago, IL 60613-2698 (773) 404-4848 and were on their way to to the Detroit office. The phone number of 248-232-6981 is based out of Pontiac Michigan. If we use MSN mapping we can find the route and get an estimate of the mileage., time and a map. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...~0~0&encType=1 MSN maps tells us that the distance is about 300 miles and will take around 5 hours depending on when they leave and how many stops they make. With most cars averaging 20 miles a gallon, they could have filled up in Chicago and made it to Pontiac If you use MSN maps and start from Chicago and end at Albion http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...~0~S&encType=1 you have a distance of roughly 200 miles and a 3 hour or so drive. If they filled up in Chicago, they should have made it past Albion unless their car had horrendous mileage.  Now this is where investigators will have a hard time since this is a cult. Genazzio and Morris could have deployed a full day in Chicago and then left at the end to get to Detroit. They also could have been deploying near the death site at local colleges or DMVs as well. For those who are not familiar with how the cult works, we have what are called "Flying Squads" who are sent out of town to set up a card table shrine in locations far from the base office. The idea is to make some money and get a lot of contacts (names and phone numbers) so that the boiler room can call them for more money.  The LC is a sick cult in how this is sometimes done. A two man squad like Genazzio and Morris would be sent out with a trunk filled to the brim with a card table, folding chairs, signs and stolen milk cartons of printed materials. This weight often played havoc with the cars since it would foster uneven wear on tires, misaligned headlights since the back of the car was weighed down and worse fuel mileage.  I can tell you from years of experience in the LC that the safety of an organiser is of the least concern. It was common for LC cars to be considered cult property and passed around from squad to squad with no one worrying about fuel, oil, radiators, tires etc. until something broke down. The routine maintaince I and others do to rotate tires and keep everything running at tip top shape is nothing compared to a daily end of the world briefing by Lyn where all of the money is sent out of the local office. Since members live a vagabound lifestyle, you often had cars which had expired registration and no insurance. Parking tickets were not yourt problem until the cars got towed away and members routinely had to drive with a suspended licences when they would not show up for hearings, not pay fines or just move to a different state and forget about the old problems. Besides a trunk full of lit it is common to see 6 to 8 members stuffed into a car to get a ride home at night or into the office in the morning. If you do this every day and night, whatever car you got when a fresh faced yute joined the cult was soon turned to scrap, The owners manual of a car is considered a fiction book in the cult LYM and LYMettes. There is all sorts of speculation on what happened to Gray Genazzio and John Morris. It is all within the possibilities of the cult that Genazzio and Morris were carrying gas with them if they had a larouchemobile without a functional fuel guage. They could have been coming from a local college deployment and did not raise enough cash. They could have been doing contact meetings after deploying. They both could have been exhausted after doing a full day's deployment in Chicago and then having to drive to Detroit. They could have been sent out with no cash in the morning and told to make the cash to get to Detroit. They could have had a rental car and wanted to bring it back empty. All of these scenarios are LC worthy. The question remains as to how you pass several gas stations and end up running out of fuel on a dark section of I 94 between two exits with fuel stations late at night. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...cl=1&encType=1 For the LYM and LYMettes, try to understand that you have very little legal protection in a cult instead of a real employer, unless you start filing complaints.. What the cult can do to you is outrageous as the LC can skip out on just about any labor law on the books by classifying you as volunteers instead of employees. You have no protection from being exploited in the hours you put in, the non mimimum wage you slave for, the abuse of your physical bodies due to inhalation of chemicals all day at intersections, no maximum work day, no control over your tools such as the LaroucheMobiles, no choice over the slightest of the mundane . Forget about retirement as Gary Gennazio was 66 and working under the same conditions as a new 20 year old drop out. Your freedom to go take care of yourself is a joke, I get emails all of the time about how an ex member just saw someone they knew who is at a card table shrine with half of their teeth missing. You can spend all of your adult working years in the cult and not build up a dime in savings or even pay into the SSI system to bost your checks.  I am flabbergasted when I think of when I first joined in the 1970s and once asked about how we were going to handle retirement and old age if we have nothing set up for this. I was laughed at, ridiculed and told that I was an idiot for thinking about this since unless Lyn is in the White House, everything will be worthless and lost. We urged our supporteres to take out second mortgages at 19% and told them that when the banks collapse later in the year, they would not have to worry about it. We told new recruits to skip out on their student loans since there could be a few billion dead under the Rockefellers.  Here we are, 30+ years later, and a 66 year old man is still working a card table shrine. Cults do not pay into disability funds or workman's comp. You have many older members now who were shortchanged in their earnings and have lower SSI benefits. The decades have passed and we have people who are older than Genazzio and have no where to go or outdated work skills. You may be having something going on in your body which will become a serious issue later. I can not even begin to tell you about the sicknening stories of members who when they were younger were attacked for seeking medical treatment by a jackass NC who said ot was all in their head. Who knows how many members over the years had their lifespan shortened by a cult combination of LaroucheNoCare and a neverending high stress environment?  Any parent whose child is in the cult and was harmed, you have legal recourses as cults are being chipped away every year for their sytsemic abuses. Members who are in can file the paper work with their state labor boards and the IRS for any abuses. You really have no idea of just how much will be taken from you untill you leave or ask why Gary Genazzio and John Morris died. If you stick around and keep this delusion going, you may get an obituary by the cult in the "hero's" section, a few poems read by someone and a send off to your grave to be quickly forgotten .  There are cases you may never hear of like M* who was packed up and shipped home to his elderly parents so it becomes their problem. How do you tell if his illness was caught early enough? How do you know that when he first complained of a symtom like a headache or vision or night sweats or any other simple problem that it was dismissed as not being important enough by a superior? How do you know that the member themselve hid the problems since it was going to interfere with some LC function like Lyn's security? You do not know and that is the point LYM and Lymettes. In the Bizarro world, your senses are dulled and diminished. Your point of reference for what is normal and not normal is being lost. You can laugh abaut Lyn laughing about broken down cars and death a few days after two LCer with nearly a half century of service just got taken off of a gourney in the autopsy room in Calhoun County Michigan to ship what is left of them back to their families. You laugh with Lyn while Lyn laughs at you. These were sick people when I first met them, but I was too stupid to want to face the facts. They were sicker when I left and just get sicker and sicker each year. Votaire was right, the cult based on ever increasing absurdity produces ever increasing atrocitites . The LYM and LYMettes are no longer recruits, just future victims. xlcr4life@hotmail.com Last edited by xlcr4life; 06-26-2008 at 09:39 AM.

USA: Ex. LYM member "Maia" tells her story on the Factnet.

FactNet postings by "Maia," an ex-member of the LaRouche Youth Movement, March 2005

"Maia," Thurs., March 10, 2005, 02:18 AM

As far as why I got out, first off I was really lucky, my significant other who wasn't in the org managed to pull me out and helped start putting some sense back into me even while I was still involved, getting me to the point where I could start looking around and seeing the horror spectacle that I was involved [in], getting control of my faculties again.

One of the things was that It gets a little tiring making a fool out of yourself every day standing on [a] street corner asking for money like a homeless person spanging (spare changing). Another thing was, watching Lyn on video, listening to him talk...everyone kept saying he was intelligent but he just kept repeating the same things over and over again. When someone would ask him a question he would break into a 20, 30, sometimes 40 minute explanation that not only made little sense, but always fit neatly into this "these guys are evil and want to destroy humanity" routine. A basic student of sociology and/or human studies can tell you, human beings, the majority, and yes there are evil psychopaths in the world, but the majority are not out to destroy the world, they are simply doing what they think is best and, well, human nature is really freaking complex--it can't be nicely packaged into good and evil slots. All he kept saying was, Dude X is evil, Dudette Y is a spawn of Satan, meh....

While I was in, I saw two things happening almost two different orgs, for one The top down structure of the organization coming from Lyn, I assume, as I had no way of knowing much of what went on in the chain of command, but nevertheless was textbook cult, even though at the time I was only realizing it subconsciously. From the ground up though, and I almost think of it as a force, particulary the new members you could say were pushing the org towards reality, towards real ideas and real productivity. Needless to say, that doesn't last long, the new recruits get swallowed up and merge with the homogenized groupthink--that or they are kicked out or pushed aside.

The lack of identity among the boomers in particular was scary. Someone like Ted who would literally stalk me to make sure I wasn't doing anything non-LaRouchie, oh and yes, Liz, big Mexican girl, really really big, if anyone here has been in or was in the L.A office. Fucking psycho. If anyone was having a normal conversation (even about LaRouchie stuff) she would come in and scream at them to get on the phones. It was her and a number of people like her that made [me] do a double take on the whole thing.

You can't say that you're against government austerity measures and bitch about Argentina raping their people when you make your own people live on the exact same bread products day in and day out. Work them to the bone, then when you get sick, they tell you that you are blocked, when you complain you haven't got your 20 dollars stipend in over a month and they make you feel awful for even thinking about it.

It's really hard to pin down one thing, it just came down to, I guess...the complete lack of concern for the mental and physical health of the youth. As I think about it, it makes me cry for the people I met that are still in it. People that I felt really kindred with, some I never got to know, but wanted to....the ones I met that were still holding on to their own identities and weren't quite being swallowed up so quickly....

So anyway, that's my rant for tonight.

Peace and butterflies.

"maia," Fri., March 18, 2005, 04:26 AM

So I've been at a training all this week (a real conference) and before that the last function I had attended was an ICLC conference. I can say there is a dramatic difference between a cult conference and a real conference. It was the first thing that occurred to me, so many things It would be hard to put into words.... it's rather scary though how the organization is able to convince you otherwise of things you knew before you joined.

They actually had me believing, or starting to, that the LYM was the only org in the world that was actually DOING anything and all the other non-profits were a bunch of impotent Satan worshipers with an Oedipus complex....

I would really like to get some sort of livejournal community going. Maybe I'll just go ahead and create one and post an invite on here. I find there isn't much out there, even as far as forums. I'm not much with what they did in the 70's [and] 80's, but I would like to find out the truth to some things. Being in the LYM raised a helluva lot of questions, about self, about the world, about the organization.

First off, how the hell can an orginization built on such a premise as it is, reach a point where the youth are recruited, burned up and used as fundraisers in an obvious freak show, that doesn't do anything to accomplish the goals it's supposed to? Was the org ever serious about it's goals? Was LaRouche ever sane? Why the hell does Robert Beltran [the film actor ("Star Trek Voyager," "Eating Raoul," etc.), now an ardent LaRouche supporter--DK] work with the org????? I personally got acting lessons from him, talk about having a hard time believing you're in a cult when a Hollywood actor gives you lessons every week. I feel so sad for the kids in the org, some of them are fucking geniuses, not very many, but some really got brains behind them and my God to throw it away on some madman's fundraising scheme, to talk of the dignity and honour and beauty of the human being, and then stand out on the street corner like a freak eight hours a day getting laughed at, accomplishing nothing but pissing a few people off.

Some of the things I learned in the midst of the tragedy that is the LYM will stay with me for life. I would like to continue some of the passionate study of Shakespeare, of all the great poets... It's hard saying what exactly made me leave, there were so many factors, but I would have to say it had to do a lot with the very thing they would have me study about: the dignity of a human being, the power of the heart to open the mind....there were so many contradictions in it all. Even reading back through this [message thread], Tom (I knew him personally too which even makes it more depressing) mentioned Schiller talking about the mind being opened through the heart, yet practically in the next sentence ranted on about how the emotions needed to be eradicated. ["Tom" is a person who was defending LaRouche on FactNet.--DK} It's so weird, Schiller talks about how reason is no good without compassion and love, yet supressing the feeling state, as they call it, is [the] number one priority. Oh, and don't even get me started how the org can say that and then praise Shelley to no end, when he contradicts everything the org stands for....He would rolling over in his grave.....grrrr. Okay, that was my rant....signing off. 

As quuoted at: http://lyndonlarouche.org/maia.htm

USA: Discussion on Factnet initiated by ex. member "Donebeenaround"

Donebeenaround Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 3:17 pm:

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I’ve read all the posts thus far; I too spent a few years in the organization and have very mixed feelings about it. First, for anyone to say that Lyn is a non-entity or has negligible political/philosophical effect amounts to pure innocence of fact, or to plain denial. Ideas can resonate. The LYM have been briefing and prodding Kucinich for years now. They obviously moved him to take action/bleat his rant. One might politely ask: how many world parliamentary bodies have YOU addressed; how many world figures have endorsed YOUR candidacies? Lyn’s effect is there, small perhaps but persistent. I got in after becoming inspired to assay a World Historical identity, yeah I know, but really, Lyn amd the org were cranking out a lot of intriguing theory in the 90’s especially, that’s what really brought me in: e.g. reviving Schiller’s Universal History angle and his “species consciousness;” Lyn’s insistence on physical economy/science-driver economy/infrastructure development; the push to comprehend a monster genius like Gauss, and how he determined asteroid orbits; man as capax dei and imago viva dei; the papers on God and metaphor, Substance of Morality, Jesus Christ and Civilization, America’s Manifest Destiny, and such. Sort of an ecumenical theism it seemed, at least on the surface, but with also a lot of depth. It looked like Lyn had modulated up from the early silly stuff, towards a JQ Adams type of American System theorist and figure. Anyway I found the theory intriguing in a provisional way at least and joined up, I had theoretic issues but I put them on hold—at least somebody was trying to do something to address the historical question generally. 

I wised up to my future as a pack mule for the LYM, saw other unpleasant aspects, and phased out. But I’ve often thought that for all his faults Lyn is sort of a Least Imperfect Vehicle: clearly there are sillinesses and tawdrinesses, but at least he TRIED, to enunciate and work towards SOME sort of programmatic theory of a future directionality for the human race, with the New Bretton Woods initiative, which has some definite international resonance; his vision of 5,000 next-generation fission plants for the world, fusion-torch technology, &c. 

There does seem to be a growing discussion, even amongst some mainstream commentators, of a looming financial meltdown; and the US is in any case headed towards fiscal train wreck as the Boomers age, though Lyn doesn’t use this formulation to describe “the crisis”—which admittedly is perpetual in Lyn’s rhetoric, but then again, how ARE we going to move forward out of the mess the world is in? Where are we going; how are we to develop the sort of power needed to e.g, protect the planet from asteroids. The cynically disillusioned herein may say nay thanks, but are you offering up anything, at all, beyond tactical kindnesses? Maybe tactical kindnesses are the most we can do; maybe there is no solution; but people have a right to spend their life’s coin as they wish. History isn’t stagnant and I give Lyn the right to proffer up ideas and programs, and I give people the right to associate as they wish, to have a say and try to change history by action, even if I find silly or disagree vehemently with much of it. 

Indeed I find it troubling politically: the anti-Israel animus, on display of late especially in the venomous screeds of Dean Andromidas, and in the insinuations Lyn has publicized to the Muslim world that Israel was behind 9-11; the utter ignorance of the fact that the Koran itself is the source of much Islamic radicalism; the bizarre charge that Galileo and Newton were reactionary puppets of the Venetians; the fatuous Bush=Hitler/ “Chief Justice Roberts is a Nazi!” rants, &c.

Donebeenaround

Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 3:18 pm:

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I.e., Lyn is quite a mixed bag. It’s terribly sad what happened to Ken. Fidelio was a beautiful magazine in every sense; it seemed proof to me that there was something bigger going on with Lyn than mail fraud. Maybe if Lyn had been less of an egomaniac; maybe had the NC’s flown coach instead of first-class; maybe had Lyn and Helga lived more frugally; maybe then the members, and the German leadership, could have had some more comforts and securities; but if you choose to orbit a sun, you may get burned. I couldn’t take the heat, but those who have given their lives for the glorious cause of a New Renaissance, for a new monetary system, for a vision of a future—and for its enunciator—well, they have given their lives for it... And I will say this also: ‘though I certainly didn’t initiate it I helped to get the LYM thing started. Before I got out I was personally involved in organizing some of the cadre schools. The idea that LaRouche’s people beat poor Jeremiah to death appears to me so utterly ludicrous as to lend credence to a “Get LaRouche” hypothesis. The cadre schools focus on Lyn’s obscure musical aesthetics, on analyzing the catenary curve and various arithmetic/geometric means, and on “becoming world historical.” A blame-Israel-first component seems fundamental to Lyn’s system, but the idea of beating up potential recruits, would be a laughable allegation if it weren’t so weighty in implication. Unless there are/were some really, really bad goons on the Euro staff, which would be a huge surprise to me, I say the explanation lies elsewhere. Why does Dennis King call Helga Lyn’s “dog-wife”? Anyone can say Lyn is the merest shyster, charlatan, and con-artist, but isn’t the reality more complex? He may indeed be or have been a con artist, but I think he’s also on to some important dimensions of history in some provisional, adumbrative way. Thus my ambivalence.

Borisbad

Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 5:05 pm:

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Donebeenaround makes several interesting points, and as I'm sure he would agree, if he read the posts, there were many ideas that originally drew most of us here on the list and that would seem to have some validity, if only they weren't expressed in his consistent World Will End if We don't implement this or that!!! rhetoric. Most members would always say, well, we could get people behind the issue of Fusion, or debt relief in the third world, etc., but Lyn would always have to insist on dragging in some other issue that would cause the person who might be sympathetic on one issue or another away. In other words you have to subscribe to the purity of all his views however ridiculous or illiterate they may be. 

The so=called leaders I'm not sure about. The ones in Russia seem to be downright reactionary nationalist restorationists and he seems to have no problem with the authoritarian policies of Putin. In fact, Lyn has no problem with any authoritarian leader per se. Witness his support for the genocidal Sudan gov't, his support for Noriega, Peron, the Saudi gov't, etc. Democracy is not a strongpoint for Lyn, and no matter how valid some of his views may seem they reflect the worst aspects of Plato's philosopher king ideal. To this day, I still support the idea of fusion research, although again Lyn treated it as a catchall, and I have no idea whether the fusion torch will be around in less than another 50 years.

SANCHO

Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 10:42 pm:

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I too was ambivalent for many years after leaving - until I began to reflect on the quality of social life in the LC. Let's assume that everything Lyn says about public and cultural matters is true. Anyone who was an actual Labor Committee member for any length of time must acknowledge that the way he or she was treated was entirely incongruent with the fine ideals everyone thought they were fighting for. In addition, every such member, past or present, knows that lying was a regular, daily practice. For example, everyone has had the experience of being told that we needed money for a particular mobilization, e.g. "getting Lyn on TV." Then we would go out and raise money in the name of one of the front groups, lying that we were fighting to promote nuclear energy or to work in the tradition of FDR when in fact the funds were going into an LC slush fund. So, at the level of one's own experience, one must be forgiven for actually concluding that we were not as virtuous as we thought ourselves, believing, as we did, that the ends justify the means. This however is not an expression of humanism, but represents a culture of criminality. At the second level, of course, is the fact (e.g., see my remarks above on his statements about Einstein) that Lyn lies in his purportedly intellectual work (when he makes any sense at all.) But that realization comes later, as I have found. For now, just interrogate your own actual experience working the phones twelve hours a day, or attending a card-table shrine seven days a week, or sidling slavishly up to people in authority: the ambivalence will begin to vanish. 

One further point: often supporters will claim, well, at least Lyn is doing "something." Look around you: many people are doing "something" in this world to make it a better place. They just do it in a much less megalomaniacal way than Lyn and his acolytes. I would further aver: hawking magazines or playing around with recreational mathematics does not change the world. Becoming a good teacher or a doctor does. 

Stay in school, kids. 

Boomerang

Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 2:52 pm:

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good polemic, Donebeenaround. You summarize the delusions which attracted many of us to the "academy" LHL was allegedly offering; but your list has no content, the purported "academy" but was more a hall of smoke and mirrors as anyone who starts studying something in earnest discovers. Let me ask you: did you study science in college? beyond college? What was the quality of your 'cadres'? because from what we've seen on Youtube and other places, they look like kids who are barely literate.

XLCR4LIFE

Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 1:48 am:

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Dbaround, your posts to me at least show why Lyn is more of a calcualating manipulator in a cult of persoanlity than ever. What bothers me is how people who have good hearts and wish to do good have been recruited under their morals and were run around by Lyn's morals. You did what you did at the time thought was a legitmate purpose. You and everyone else who joined had ideals and had basic building blocks of virtue which existed before the LC and exist after the LC. What is often the case is that many former memebrs have done things of incredible magnitude despite what was done to them and despite losing years under Lyn's cult of personality. 

What happens is that as you enter the world of Lyn you forgoe a connection to everything which is available to you and become more insular as time goes on. This then becomes a transformation where nothing you talk or think about is said without a Larouche prefix attached to it. 

This no accident and I will use my experience to show you how it evolved. 

My first contact with the LC was in the 1970s while in High School. I was a teenager who was not sure of a lot of things but was sure that a lot of things needed to change. What I am hearing from the LC is a call for fusion power and economic growth and conern with starvation in developing countries. I was interested in this and found that the people I spoke to were a little odd, but were not dope heads and liked classical music. To me, this was an ideal local club to work with and I soon found out that they were an international organisation. Wow! I now had what I thought was an opportunity to change the world and do it in way that would be done soon. The LC lit back then was titled "Strategy for Socialism" and the paper called "New Solidarity" seemed like a crazy tabloid that followed the Rockefellers instead of Elvis and Bigfoot each week. In my mind, I was going to college and figured that I could just work with the Nuclear p ower stuff as we had a front group called the Fusion Energy Foundation. In the local rundown office were more shabbily dressed people and I joked that I wanted to make sure this was not a cult and looked for pictures of Larouche who was then calling himself "Lyn Marcus" on the walls. 

On the walls were maps of the area and things like plant gate shift changes and another room called "The War room". For a teenager like me, this seemed serious. I saw what I wanted to see and read what I wanted to read. The papers and magazines had crazy stories about CIA/MI5brainwashing members like Chris White. Wild stories about forced relocation of workers for slave labor and how Rockefeller was ruling the world. I shoudl have ran away as fast as I could, but, I wanted a reason why the world was the way it is and the LC gave me every reason and would and could explain anything in the world with their methodology. 

Ok, it seems nuts, but at the time, it seemed like the only thing which wanted to take on everything. So I figured since no one else had so many targets , than maybe this is the way to get things done. Little did I know how things work in changing people. When I thought of cult I thought of the traditional Moon or Krishna cult. Decades after i left the LC I began to read up on cults and found that the whole LC and Larouche was basically follwoing a standard cult blue print with a political twist.

In the LC and in Larouche World you have to have basic principals to formulate your thinking. You need to have not just a problem, but massive and neverending problems of apoclyptic proportions. problems so big that they are not just problems, but things which will end humanity. The endless catastrophe you as a member face is to change you, not for you to change it. You may think that you are , but in a cult of personality, only a messianic figure, a special person who is above all of the members like a Moon or Larouche or any other figure knows what to do and needs you to do it. 

You also need to empty your heart of compassion and fill it up with hate. Pure hate of everything which is not supporting you in your endless end of the world battle to save humanity. Now, it is not enough to support nuclear power. You now demand it. you now say that unless it is developed, humanity will die. Now the people who oppose nuclear power are not people who are concerned with engineering concerns, taxpayer concerns, security concerns but part of the conspiracy to kill off the human race of excess people. Lyn will provide you with an encyclopedia of names and orgs and foundations who are part of this. Now you are at the point where if someone talks about being concerned about fresh air and water and reducing toxic waste, they are an enemy of the human race and your enemy. 

I can go to almost any subject the LC and Lyn writes about and it will end up that way. Even with this, people in the FEF had some respect as they had degrees and did no talk like maniacs. they had a life where they could interview people, write articles and produce a magazine that did not look half bad. 

For Lyn, it was real bad. It was bad because in a cult of personality, Lyn is the focus, nothing else. So in the early 1980s, Lyn issued a memo which made clear that unless your activity involved him, it was not allowed. The way it was worded was very clever in that it demanded that persuing the Larouche presidency was the only thing and every front group and publication had to support that. 

You liked the Fidelio magazine. Ever wonder why it was not mailed out and promoted? Ken Kronberg created that and tried to make it something which was not crazy. There are reports of endless tirades by Lyn against Ken for trying to do that. The blood vessels would pop in Lyn's head as he denounced Ken as a boomer over and over and then ended it with a demand for endless printing with out a single thought of how to pay for this. Oh, let me correct that. .There was a single thought , it was called have someone else run up a debt for supplies and have the members do it for nothing. 

Don't be scared of this political scam artist. I saw him cower like a baby on the Morton Downey show when he was confronted with his own words about Jews and others. He babbled "shut up, shut up" . The people there were not naive college kids who were intimidated by a 6 foot 5 father figure to members who often had father issues.

When I came to the National office I figured out somethiungs and was told a lot by people who were leaving. In every case, a member who had a one on one meeting with Lyn dropped out the next day or so as they realised Lyn was bonkers. The cult master has no clothes folks. His reading is basically done by looking at the cover, jackets a chapter and then , now this is important, a summary by the staff. In NYC we had a dozens of people who knew a lot of things and did research. A guy named Peter Rush did a prioject where he took as many papers done by members and indexed them in a library of sorts. What caem of that was an embarassment of sorts. it seemed that if you looked at any of Lyn's writings you figure out the formula. You take a subject of current politcal value like Ted Kennedy. You then link him to what ever is the main fundraising issue such as a KGB/Russian takeover of the world. you now take one of those research papers and find the key thesis and link it to that. So the end is a centerfold article where about two paragraphs mention Kennedy, more pragraphs mention some historical situation adn then you fill it up with the standard 5000 years of conspiracy, throw in Aristotle and then some new tid bit the poor LCer found and declare it a magnum opus that needs to be put out in a pamphlet or book for the masses. Read enough of this and you too can write this stuff for the LC. The poor LCer who did the long hours of work in the library does not even get a footnote and ends up cooing for Lyn's wink instead of yelling that his or her hard work was stolen by this charlatan. The standard MO for us is that the phone organiser would make some issue sound reasonable so he would not be hung up. Once you snet them some of our lit, forget it. We would try hard to NOT have Lyn do meetings with our contacts because of how they would end up with Lyn demanding that they bankroll him or some crazy statement about the Queen of England or such. 


In most cases when the phone calls were no longer being returned, Lyn would write about how so and so was harrassed by Henry Kissinger or the KGB to not work with him. 

For myself I can tell you that I read about fusion power years before I met the LC. I read about plasma torches years before I met the LC and did a science project in the 5th grade about this. You can look up the GE corporation and see a division they have in joint projects with other companies. I read about maglevs years before the LC made it somethng to impress you with. What is important is that the issues or the technology exist without a cult and get produced without a cult. When I was in I wanted to be part of an org which wanted to support somethiung called the McKormick bill for Fusion funding in congress. Years later we were told that to get fusion power we need to have 20 airports manned with card table shrines each day with aquota of 300 dollars per table . 

Star Trek existed way before Lyn's cult and has fostered more dreamers and creators than a gazillion Fusion and 21st Century magazines. We used to have a little science hand out called "Young Scientist". When we tried to make it a non Lyn publication and get class rooms to use it. Unless Lyn was in it, forget it. Heaven help an LC couple who wanted to rasie their kids as young scientists. Lyn demanded that if your kids survived the abortion pressure, than he wants those kids manning card table shrines for HIM.

Lyn wants YOU to raise money for HIM to promote mars. Former member Bob Zubrin runs an organisation called "The Mars Society" which does real work. His books are best sellers and not given a quota of cheap newsprint copies to be given away. Zubrin has and is seen almost monthly in every science journal there is, on TV news shows, TV specials and has been invited to the White House to be awarded for his work. He holds several patents on rocket science. 

Lyn waits for Henry Kissinger to come out of a men's room at a White House Press club dinner to have his photo taken with him while mesmerising him with his delusions. Kissinger probably thought the Foe gras was contaminated and made him ill. 


There is nothing new being told to the LYM or your self that we have not heard Lyn do before. The speeches you heard when you joined are the saem ones we heard except with a new cast of characters. The phrases are the same. 

Us Jimmy Carter worse than Hitler 

You Al Gore Worse than Hitler. 

Us Impeach Carter 

You Impeach Cheney 

Us Give money to stop KGB 

You Give money to stop Synarchists 

US Methadone pushed by Nuremburg Criminals 

You Video games pushed by Nuremburg Criminal. 

Us The world economy is going to crash. 

You The world economy is going to crash. 

US We are in a depression. 

You We are in a depression of the physical economy. 

Us Rockefeller runs the world 

You British and the Jews run the world. 

Most of us were in when the LC made the transformation from Rocky to the British and the Jews running the world. Most of us left. 

Us 3 Mile Island was a hoax to eliminate people. 

You Global warming is a hoax to eliminate people. 

Us Chris White brainwashing done by Rock to stop the ICLC from taking power. Hoax by Lyn. 

You Duggan death, hoax done by Cheney to stop LYM from taking power. 

Us David Rockefeller and his family run the world and all that is evil. 

You Cheney and his wife run the world and all that is is evil. 

Us Leesburg Real Estate collapse will bankrupt the banks when people can not pay the notes. 

You Lyn does not pay the notes on LC real estate to the banks and our people collapse. 

Us Supporting Solar power is stupid and won't work. 

You Supporting solar power is evil and will kill off humanity 

Let me give you a little clue of how crazy the LC/LYM is . One of our members in the LA region left in the 1990s. The only thing I think he knew to work with when he left was roofing. He started his own business in LA and began to grow as a roofing contractor. Later, he developed a roof system which used new solar panels for power generation. His company is now the leading developer of solar panel roofs and has been recognised in many articles and in the Wall Street Journal. Business which use his system .The buildings which he installed this can now sell power back to the grid which feeds the Glendale LYM office for LYM jabronis to HATE solar power. 

Lyn has a new spin now since we have shown his broken record briefings to the yutes. Today the line is that he tells yutes that he is not predicting a crash but is trying to prevent it.! There is nothing new to say hear. All of us were pretty young when we joined and wised up later. Most people restarted their lives and have done incredible things. In the LC you are told over and over that no one is doing anything. You are alone, trying to save the planet from enemies who do not know they are enemies. 

Debt has always been an issue in the developing world. Enroll in any third world study class in college in the 1960s and it was a big part of the curriculum. Lyn is the only one who declared a debt moratorium . he did it aganist the members and and supporters by borrowing money and not paying it back. 

Lyn declared a debt moratorium on PMR and see what happened there. Bono of U2 has been more successfull in promoting debt relief and he only wants you to buy their records, shirts and conccert tickets instead of joining a Bono cult. 

I posted my "moral resume" here last year. As a free person I go to meet with my congressmen, elected officials like the mayor and others, the previous governor and present governor of my state and discuss issues like child care, energy and health policy. This is not some big deal if you call up , make an appointment and discuss this with them in either their office or open meetings. no one is cutting off my mike and rolling their eyes when I speak. I do not litter their offices with cult crazed fanzines and instead contribute to promoting bills and providing input on how it may effect families in their district. 

Yes, things are better in many places where I choose to help, not hate. 

If you want to see what 35 years of the LC and worshipping Lyn will get you, take a look at this video. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzFh3ci1ysY 

After the intro you will see the LA office NC named Phil Rubinstein give a briefing to a few people in a shabby office just like the one I entered 3 decades ago with mismatched chairs and a stink in it. This particular NC is notorious for doing anything Lyn demanded when it comes to sacrificing members to feed a Club Ibykus party. The temper on his part is probably justifiable to a degree. I think he dropped out of John Hopkins at age 17 to join the LC. He was brilliant enough to be considered for a Rabbincal education, but not smart enough to recognise that he was selling copies of the Dope Inc book with The Protocals of The Elders of Zion as a chapter. He saw all of his Jewish friends leave in disgust when Lyn and Security were circulating the infamous "Jew Jokes" in the LC. He accepted Lyn as his saviour when Lyn began issuing his Holocaust Gospels in New Solidarity in the late 1970s. 

Each briefing you hear on the LYM web site starts off with how we are building a movement. After 35 years he has seen almost everyone he knows drop out or die and still fears facing the fact that all his posturing, chair throwing don't mean a thing. He can read in the briefing a few days ago where Lyn says LA is a problem. . Based on the track record of Lyn, the boomer pogrom is heading West.